Tuesday, February 10, 2009

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Its interesting that Ps PN often tell us not to split church but he himself did otherwise, I am not too sure if he will try to convince other HGI churches to join him, but i do know they are trying their best to get people around bangkok and thailand to join them, especially those churches who stayed neutral.

Apparently though from a friend he send people to the neutral churches to convince them to join him and also get people to talk to people in foundation to get them to switch over.

I do think HGI churches will stand with the leadership in HGI and not switch camp. From what i read from the biblediscuss, which unfortunately is mostly in Thai, we will follow Ps Simon.


Comments from previous post.... :

That is exactly what happened in Seattle... isolate you and try to convice others to abandon you... better to be united regardless of the situation. God blesses unity...

If anyone is reading this, also be aware that if the Hope leaders can't convince you to follow them, they will go through your spouse and try to get them on their side.

Thank God that these things are now finally being revealed.

Ex-Member in Seattle.



Anonymous said...

I forgot to mention.

Washington DC
Dallas Texas
Tokyo
Los Angeles, California
Vancouver, Canada
Portland, Oregon

These are all churches that were under the leadership in Seattle. PN and Somtop came to Seattle during a big meeting and convinced the others to stay with Hope.

The Pastors in Washington DC moved back to Seattle and remain here till this day. As far as I can tell, DC evaporated as well as Portland, Oregon.

Later, Arizona joined with Seattle and remains with us today.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, I've heard that Singapore will follow PN.

Anonymous said...

What??? who and where u heard this from?

Anonymous said...

This is not the case.

Anonymous said...

I really hope so...

Anonymous said...

The fact is is not going to be. I believe the Hope Singapore pastors are God fearing and Godly leaders. I doubt they have this "obey irregardless" nonsense doctrine. They are wise not to involve get into this entanglement. They know the weight of the matter and had decided what best for the local congregation.

Anonymous said...

You seemed to know what they have decided... care to share here?

Anonymous said...

Really ? I would think Singapore would follow HGI

Anonymous said...

Hi all, I am from Hope Singapore. Ps Jeff has announced to all the leadership that Hope Singapore will be standing united with HGI, not PN.

If there is any speculation, pse do not pose it anyhow on the internet, but I think it's best to consult your local leadership for truth and clarification which I believe need not & will be hidden.

I appreciate this blog, but it should pose acknowleged facts and not just speculations and hear-say.

James Ng
Hope Singapore

Anonymous said...

what is HGI? who is heading HGI? Leadership of HGI is PN, ST and SE. they are the ones who siphon $$ from international churches to DJ. Is this the right move?

Anonymous said...

I think now HGI is under the leadership of Ps Simon Eng and Hope SG is under HGI.

I think SE did not know that the money was given to DJ?

Tyson said...
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Tyson said...

I'm glad that Singapore will not follow PN. I heard otherwise and posted that information yesterday (first comment on this thread). Obviously, I posted misinformation though unintentionally.

Thanks for coming on here to clear that up.

BTW, whoever is here posting as an "ex-member" from Seattle should know that others are indeed reading this blog. Let's keep it clean, ok?

Anonymous said...

Who or what is HGI? To those in Hope, it is assumed to be a legitimate leadership of the entire organization. In time you will realize it is a phantom organization. They make the decisions, you pay the money. You don't know who they are or what they do with the money. Ask yourself: where is the HGI headquarters? What is the address? Phone number? website? the leaders? minutes from meetings? Have you EVER seen an HGI letter head?

What kind of legitimate organization would behave like this?

Another ex-member in Asia.

Anonymous said...

There's certain truth in the above post...

I only know that there's this website: http://advancehgi.blogspot.com/search/label/cover

In fact, not many members know abt this website too...