Saturday, January 31, 2009

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Post Re: ลองอ่านความเห็นของ อ.PK จาก London, UK
How long we conform to the regulation human made moreover than the biblical words.

Let me show you.
Matt 15:7-9
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

How we should we deal with who committed the idolatry?
Deut 13:1-5
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

From these words, if this subject happened in Israel. I will be the first one who stone Dr. J and A. Jabb. But we are in non-believer country. So Romans 13:1-7 are still valid and make us cannot stone whom deserve.

And what should we do for those who allows teaching about ability to commit idolatry? Let me show you again.
Deut 13:12-18
12 ¶If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Right, they should be all destroyed with the whole city if applicable.

Thus, what should we do in the real world?

Destroy their credibilities is perfect for my sight.

Do I have no love for those people?

For God's sake, I must do love God and His name more.

Turn back to Ps PK letter. For my opinion, he did less than God's standard for those who committed to idolatry.

If anyone want to object my opinion, show me your biblical words, not any regulation made by men.


Anonymous said...

Dear Eagle_eye,
I have followed all your postings ever since. Could you post in your website DJ's teaching about worshiping idol, or the narration of the recorded teaching. Please, in English.
Last February 2010, I met DJ in Bangkok, and in brief he explained that it was a cross cultural evangelism.
Dr Sambudi
Ps in Hope Solo, Indonesia.
My email address:

Anonymous said...

Dr Sambudi,

You mean you still trust DJ? Get a life please and start thinking...