Update on Ps PK email

A post from one of the pastor from Hope perth... to Ps PK letter. which would be a typical thai response.

One interesting fact is that I do think Ps PK is right, because it does seem a double standard. from the email it seems that we value people more than we value God's law which is sad .

What PK said is not wrong. In a NORMAL CHURCH a pastor who commits adultery would have to be stepped down but yet not in Thailand ??? Why ??

There are evidence of

1. illegal financial activity ... which in election law is forbidden to do YET it was done with the leaders approval ???

2. there is video teachings of the idol worship and what Rubina showed is also true ?

3. The leaders are not leading a life mentioned IN THE BIBLE ... to be above reproach ...but YET it seems that MEMBERS should submit and obey and not question the action of the leaders EVEN If there are prove of things NOT IN LINE WITH THE BIBLE TEACHING ..

It is so so dangerous to worship people and listen to people... without first making sure the LEADERS we follow ARE TRULY GODLY PEOPLE.

LEADERS TITLE ARE GIVEN BY MEN ... who gave the title Pastor ? Who gives the role of leader ? Its actually PEOPLE ... people who see that their LIFES are worthy of such title.
It will be a sad day in the history of Hope of Hope when we follow PEOPLE instead of GOD.

And all we see people use are words like submission, obedience and unity without first making sure other prerequisite is in place for the leaders like...

1. Honesty
2. Integrity
3. Life above reproach


It is with honour that i salute Ps PK for his honesty. A SIN IS A SIN.. WE CANNOT COVER SIN AND CALL IT A WHITE SIN. A LIE IS A LIE, THERE IS NO TWO WAYS.




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Re: ลองอ่านความเห็นของ อ.PK จาก London, UK

DEAREST PS.PK TSE,


Thanks a lot for your Christmas Greetings with interesting storiesabout Hope Leadership of which I have been observing for over 2 monthsnow.

I would like you to know that I have the same zeal for theKingdom as you have, that's why I have been serving for over 20 yearsas God's servant as well.

I have learnt a lot from many mistakes in my past by stepping down as a pastor during the economical crisis inHatyai

(where you've also lost one unit of condo there and I had tried tofollow up but the company closed down, sorry for that),

now thank Godthat he has called me back to the ministry in Perth, Australia of which I really love this family and I follow Ps.Simon's &Ps.Wilson'sdirection to stand in neutral

during this time and do not overact (although I think I know a lot since I am a Thai, receiving all info.daily from many pastors & friends in Thailand from all parties)

What I am doing now are:

1) Although I know many facts, but the evidences are not with me or Ican't show to all the people I am communicating with, therefore, Iwill not make any statement as a

'Judgmental Sentence' over ourleaders by emailing to all the people whom I can't provide evidence.In people's eyes, it will become only an allegation still.

2) Although I have all the evidences and witnesses, I might need toprovide the said evidence to all people whom I am emailing to them.

3) I don't think I am a Judge in judging our leader's sin or I am theone to expose their sins, even if it istrue.

4) I am seeking the UNITY among all pastors in Oceania first since Iam still under their covering because, they have not sinned in anyway.

5) Since 10 years ago, Dr.J left our movement, I took that he has nodeal with our church anymore since in Bkk we had farewelled him to goto political areas.

I think that we should only deal with Ps.... atthe moment.

My humble suggestion is that: We should all work through our existingor closest leaders to find,

at least, unity in a level to resolve thisissue/crisis which is the greatest ever in our moment calmly and withgood conscience, knowing we are all sinners and no one is perfect

yet.Please don't do this way which is so hostile to our leader, at least,they have been also serving and doing some good things throughout 20years,

if he needs to step down, should we kick him out like a dog? ordo it more gently than this!

'How should we deal with a servant ofGod who haddone wrong in biblical way?'BY THE WAY, this is just an example (real one),

I have received yourresponse on 'HI 5' about 2 times attaching with a PORNOGRAPHY to mybig surprise! it is from Ps. PK Tse (Hope UK)

The Evidence is stillwith me now BUT I ALWAYS THINK THAT THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE, believingon your good side, I never expose to anyone.

However, I still believethat it must be an accident even now but please check it through,otherwise,

you might be sending some other porno to others which isnot me next time.

I'm so sorry to give this kind of big analogy, good sermon from what Ilearn from my Bible Schools here in Australia must give a goodIllustration that really hit!

so that people can truly understand it.Hope this help also.However, I love you with the love of the Lord,

I still confirm tostand in neutral and don't side on anyone neither Ps.... nor the Hope Foundation led by Mrs Rubina who had alsodone a violent thing causes

thousand of souls to be lost at themoment.

(She sent out the allegations not only all leaders but membersand new believers with outsiders Christians and even non-believers)

May the Lord bless you all during this Christmas Season and New Year to come.

HAVE A GREAT TIME BROTHER & SISTERS,WITH A GREAT HUMILITY,

Stephen PitavanikHope Perth Christian Church