How should christian respond to leaders who commit adultery

What do everyone think if a leader commits adultery, what do you think the church should respond.

-If the pastor admits his mistake should he continue to serve in a leadership capacity without proper restoration ?

- Does everyone think then in PN's case and what he said that He is divinely appointed is reasonable ?

- So how should we help the person involved ? His wife and the third party ?

Blogging about PN

Here is a quick response to some comments, while yes I do not like to follow PN, in fact as I had mentioned i wanted to keep it quiet and from my blog I am sure many will know that I have not blog for awhile, because our leaders have decided to split way.

Unfortunately, Mr PN is not willing to give up, he has tried to email and called people to sway them and telling them half-truth. I know of leaders who have personally received email from Mr.PN telling them that he is still the head of HGI and what we did was wrong, he mislead alot of leaders and because our leaders from HGI have been very nice and not said much and tries to play it down, PN used this opportunity to spread confusion among the people.

I suppose my blog is also my own personal opinion of the person whom i used to look up to, I look at his twitter, blog and website and sometimes I just like to point out the irony of what he is trying to do.

Maybe I would also post questions than people can also give their opinion

Biblical Leadership Functions with Accountability

Biblical Leadership Functions with Accountability

Last week, we covered the Need for Biblical Accountability. In this post, we bring you Part 2 of 3 on this subject written by James Loke.

Who Do Leaders Account To?

Leadership accountability involves three spheres:

To Senior Leadership

Leaders have to account to those over them, other more senior leaders or if no one else, God Himself. The concept of accountability in this sphere is straightforward, like that of every believer who accounts to the Lord after this life (1 Th 5:12-13). There is a major difference in operation as the Lord knows everything about our stewardship but the senior leader may not. Accountability would require the leader to tell his senior leader relevant information in his life and ministry that would help the senior leader to oversee him effectively (Heb 13:17). Even a leader may have blind spots and a senior leader, who is more matured and experienced in life and ministry, would help the former do the work of the ministry more fruitfully. An important example of top leadership accountability is seen in the life of Moses who was publicly rebuked and judged by God in Num 20:11-12.

To Peers

In the New Testament, leadership is always plural. This is demonstrated by elders operating in plurality in the New Testament churches, with other elders in the same local church or with elders in other churches. No leader was exempt from having to account to his peers. At the highest level of apostleship, Peter was still accountable to Paul. Paul had no qualms to rebuke him regarding segregating himself away from the Gentiles in the presence of Jews (Gal 2:11-14). Gal 6:1-2 holds us responsible to be our brother’s keeper.

To Followers

Church members have willingly placed themselves under the leadership. Leaders owe it to followers to regularly communicate where and how they are leading them. There is clear evidence that the apostles practiced this. In Acts 6, the apostles were accountable to the believers for the running of the church and came up with a novel idea of administration by a new team of deacons when their time conflicted with other priorities of prayer and ministry of the Word. In Acts 11, Peter explained to the believers why he visited Cornelius, a Gentile. Paul and Barnabas gave an account of their missionary journey to the church at Antioch (Acts 14:26-27).

Accountability in this sphere should not be misunderstood that the leaders are subservient to the followers. The accountability of the leaders to the followers arises from a partnership in serving God together. However, the leaders and the followers have distinct roles in this partnership with leaders leading.

How Accountability Works

Many churches have built-in accountability structures. These structures do have some effectiveness but accountability works best when the leader himself has the right internal makeup.

Accountability works best with good relationships. When Adam was having his walks with God in the evenings, he probably discoursed with God all he needed to tell His maker regarding his stewardship of the Garden of Eden. There was no need to invite God, the shareholder, for an Annual General Meeting to report on the fruitfulness in the Garden. When we have close relationships with those around us, we will not fear being judged by them.

Accountability provides both needed discipline and support for the leader. The leader knows that whatever he does will affect others and he may have to give an answer, explicitly or implicitly. He may be evaluated by his superiors, challenged by his peers, or asked for an answer by his juniors. Accountability can be a support system because when accountability is functioning properly superiors can give better advice with better knowledge, peers can chip in to shoulder issues when needed, and juniors know how they can help support the leader for best results.

….. to be continued in the next post.

We thank Ian Foley, Prakich Treetasayudh and Wilson Lim who provided valuable comments to an earlier draft of this article.

Hope Bangkok Anniversary Theme...

Before the original Hope... there was Original Coke. Then came Diet Coke and Coke 0. My point : Sometimes, things need to develop so we can enjoy more variety. Original recipe is good but I do like my KFC Hot and Spicy too...

I suppose its normal for them to prove a point.. I will not disagree they started Hope... but now i want "New Hope"

Celebrate the 28^th Anniversary ‘The Original Hope’

This September we will have an opportunity really thank God for all that he has brought our family through in the past 28 years. Even though the past few months may have seemed rough, but we know that God kept us and He will continue to keep us, that is why this September we will be celebrating ‘The Original Hope’

The name of Pastor PN - who is the real Joseph

I do not know if everyone notice how our founder who used to be called Dr.Joseph Kriengsak now calls himself Dr. Dan ?

For almost a number of years, there have been a systematic removal of his name from Hope Archive. Books about him, or tapes with him preaching have to be returned to Bangkok.

And I am not sure if anyone notice. Pastor PN is now called Ps Joseph. This seemingly innocent switch hides a bigger motive.

Because Ps Joseph name is well known previously in the christian circle and if you type up a number of website. A lot of the christian database lists a Ps Joseph as the founder of the Hope of God movement.

I wonder if the main reason for Ps PN to adopt the name Joseph has something to do with Dr. Jospeh Kreigsak the actual founder of hope movement.

You begin to wonder why there is so much secrecy regarding this previous man of God Dr Joseph Kreingsak and why is he so ashamed to be associated with the people of God to the extent that he has to try and erase his name from our church history.

Maybe its his life, maybe they is a deeper reason for this. Lets not forget, up till now PN and DrJ have never once admitted what they did was wrong and ungodly.

Lets not be deceived. I really hope one day the people in Thailand can see who they are.

In the words of the rapper eminem.. "let the real Jospeh please stand up.... "