tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post816975797821742890..comments2024-01-04T13:35:51.448-08:00Comments on Your Verdict - Renewing our thoughts: Principle of Good financial managementEagle_eyehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02685938526380780215noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-13928349588140950602010-01-20T15:33:00.626-08:002010-01-20T15:33:00.626-08:00Hi,
I would not think they do not know. But, I t...Hi, <br /><br />I would not think they do not know. But, I think sometimes their hands are tied. <br /><br />I suppose time will tell. Church is a dynamic place. we will know in due time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-51233768250672315692010-01-19T05:37:32.820-08:002010-01-19T05:37:32.820-08:00Hi Concerned,
Please refer your concerns to Ps Wi...Hi Concerned,<br /><br />Please refer your concerns to Ps Wilson directly, it will be more effective that way. <br /><br />From what I understand, Hope leadership doesn't respond to any comments posted on the blog. It's better to hear straight from the horses mouth rather than speculate. We won't know what steps Ps Wilson has taken unless you ask him yourself. <br /><br />On the other hand I am not sure how much the leaders are willing to tell you though... it's a leadership issue... not appropriate to be made public. <br /><br />I think the only option you have is to talk to Ps Wilson yourself. If he doesn't answer your question, go to his boss, Ps Simon. If he ignored you as well, then you got to work out if Hope is really for you. There are so many good churches out there full with hard working God loving people as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-66814848264937410022010-01-18T19:51:08.175-08:002010-01-18T19:51:08.175-08:00We feel that as a pastor there should be limits an...We feel that as a pastor there should be limits and boundaries. If not, it is very difficult for people to respect you and to follow you.<br /><br />We feel that what we are learning from Hope is from Pastor Stephen's actions, not what he preaches. The leader can preach one thing, but it's no point to do the opposite.<br /><br />I really believe in the mandate God has for Hope, but I don't want to be receiving false teaching just to serve in Hope. <br /><br />What worries me is the fact that Pastor Wilson is not even doing an investigation about it. And just trusting what Pastor Stephen says. This action alone has caused a lot of doubt in my heart about the Hope movement itself. Maybe it is not as good as I always thought it to be.<br /><br />If the reason why Pastor Wilson is not doing anything is because of the recent shakings then that doesn't make sense. Precisely because of the recent shakings, you would think that the top leadership should be clamping down hard on things like that to prevent the same thing from happening again.<br /><br />I'm losing my confidence in Hope movement.Concernednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-27076460830117826482010-01-17T21:52:12.642-08:002010-01-17T21:52:12.642-08:00Hi concerned,
Usually, issues happen because som...Hi concerned, <br /><br />Usually, issues happen because somebody saw something or know something, which they feel is not right. <br /><br />Many who left either know something or seen something. Depending on who you ask, they may choose to reveal or to keep quiet. <br /><br />I think sometimes the top leadership cannot do much because of the recent shaking of the hope movement and alot of the previous policies in Hope were very ambigious to say the least.<br /><br />Just an observationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-90616751971353319362010-01-17T17:59:40.637-08:002010-01-17T17:59:40.637-08:00We were not sure how true this blog was at first. ...We were not sure how true this blog was at first. Especially when Pastor and the leaders announced about Pastor Wilson's letter. We thought, surely Pastor Stephen coulen't be such a person. <br /><br />Then slowly after questioning and observation, some aspects do appear to be true. I'm not saying everything is true, because there are some things that we cannot confirm for sure. <br /><br />What do we do then? Since even the top leadership (pastor wilson etc.) do not want to listen to the people's observation? We really believe in the vision that God has put in Hope Perth, but we don't want to serve a pastor who is not righteous in word and deed. We don't want to leave Hope Perth, but does that mean that we should just endure what is wrong?Concernednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-24494906441151544832010-01-14T05:56:04.010-08:002010-01-14T05:56:04.010-08:00Hi concerned,
I think these will be left to your...Hi concerned, <br /><br />I think these will be left to your own intuition. Unfortunately, because financial transparency is never a strong issue in Thailand. I suppose this will have a flow on effect in the previous hope movement. Teachings past down often affect how most leaders will run their church and how deeply ingrained are they with the teachings is another issue. <br /><br />From my understanding when PN and Kriengsak was in power, the ideology was to trust the leader with total submission. There was no strong policy and no one to enforce proper control in respect of money. Many churches have previous requested the breakdown of HGI tithe of 20% but it never was forthcoming. <br /><br />This was the reason they were able to use the money as the please until Rubina decided to spill the bean.<br /><br />As for Hope Perth, this is something you have to figure out. I do not want to add any fuel to fire. <br /><br />The important thing is that all the pastors and leaders learn from the past mistakes of the Hope leadership and change how we run the movement. <br /><br /><br />RegardsEagle_eyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685938526380780215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3863592448044721647.post-27789530533502398182010-01-12T22:18:48.247-08:002010-01-12T22:18:48.247-08:00Some of us from Hope Perth are getting suspicious ...Some of us from Hope Perth are getting suspicious that our pastor may really be mishandling finances. I'm not sure who you are eagle_eye, but I'm wondering if you know whether its true. This will determine the next move we would like to take.<br /><br />Thank you.Concernednoreply@blogger.com